Playing with Poetry: Interview with L.L. Barkat

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For the last two-and-a-half months, I've been getting more and more into the work of L.L. Barkat, the poet and author of four books, including Rumors of Water: Thoughts on Creativity & Writing and her book of poetry, InsideOutRumors of Water is a book writing in the style of Annie Dillard, which instantly makes me start salivating.

L.L. Barkat is a staff writer for The Curator, a culture magazine based in NYC, and also authors several blogs. My personal favorite of hers is Seedlings in Stone. You probably should subscribe.

I'm so excited to talk to her about creativity, poetry, and how to balance all those projects and commitments we all have. I hope you enjoy the interview!

LL Writing

Hi Laura. Thanks for joining me! So your book of poetry, InsideOut, came out of your practice of spending fifteen minutes outdoors every day. That sounds very Write Practisian! How did you create poems out of those moments?

The moments created the poems. I found them later, when I was sorting through a year’s worth of journals. The sorting was a terribly tedious process—part of a different book project. Yet as I was sorting, I found these delightful moments already expressed in words that simply needed to be lifted out, set apart, and broken into lines…

Lightning flashes
and I write
of yellow leaves.

 

Beautiful. I love that. By the way, I know you use rhyme in your poetry, but many poets seem to have abandoned it. How can writers use rhyme in modern poetry?

Sparingly.

Unless you are attempting to write form poetry, which helps you work a bit harder at capturing rhymes in a way that’s effective.

My rhymes are rarely obvious, since they occur internally. It makes me smile that you even noticed them! Good eye, good ear. Like this, from the poem “Muse”:

…Who can work
in the presence of such disdain,
who can stay sane, pen the next
masterpiece while your eyes
look so vexed. You are not
the helpmeet I ordered, not the
glass of red wine nor the rich, fine…

 

I heard an interview where you described your poetry process as a moment of connection between an emotion and an image. Can you talk more about that? How can writers create those kinds of connections?

Maybe the first step is to regularly play with images. Don’t worry about finding the emotion; it’s there—buried by the day, the month, or even the years.

You can tap into the emotion through touching images, just writing them down and sticking with them. Make simple lists of what you see on the table or out the window. Do this every day for a while.

Over time, the process of connection becomes more automatic, and emotions attach themselves, express themselves through what you see around you and the sounds you use to bring that to the page.

Trees black, struck against
faded cobalt sky and the sun
leaking tears, yellow, pink.

 

You write poetry, essays, and blog posts. How do you balance it all?

Do I? 🙂

I’m terribly impetuous. I write what I want when I want. This is why your blog stands a better chance than any one of mine; I use my blogs to process thoughts and test out ideas.

But two of my books came from using such an approach, as I watched my readers take an interest in certain topics I was simply playing around with.

In fact, Rumors of Water:Thoughts on Creativity & Writing came out of a blog post called Ten Reasons to Write (Or Not) a Book About Writing. An acquisitions editor came by the post and asked for a proposal, and that’s when I knew I really had something. A year later, I wrote the book (and blogged very little… how’s that for balance? 🙂

When do you write? Mornings? Late at night? 

I’m not fussy. I write whenever I can snatch a few minutes to myselfRumors of Water was written daily from 4 am to 8 am over a period of three weeks. Other books took over a year, in the evenings. I have this terrible compulsion to finish a project once I’ve started, so you can be assured that any free moment will be fair game, regardless of whether the sun has risen or set.

Do you have any special places where you feel like you can be more creative?

Sure. I’d take Paris, the ocean off California, or a little cabin in the Adirondacks. Well, that is if I could. Really, I just write at the table in my dining room or on the back porch. It’s terribly unromantic.

I love your last name. You aren't, in fact, a cat who lives in a bar, perchance?

Maybe I am. I’ll never tell.

L.L. Barkat is the author of Rumors of Water: Thoughts on Creativity & Writing, as well as two spiritual memoirs and a book of poetry. She is Managing Editor of Tweetspeak Poetry and Staff Writer for The Curator. If you ever have reason to bribe her, she accepts tea and chocolate.

PRACTICE

Here's L.L. Barkat's practice prompt:

Sit outside for fifteen minutes. Do nothing. You may feel like this is a waste of time. Perfect. You might find your mind drifting, your thoughts unfolding. Let it happen without making any effort to be productive.

When you come back in the house (apartment, office, classroom), write for three pages straight. This may also feel like a waste of time. But it is freeing you. Find just three lines you like and post them here. If someone else has posted three lines, consider making a small poem of them, right in the comment box, as a way to celebrate their words.

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30 Comments

  1. Kathleen Cassen Mickelson

    Great interview! I’m going to share the link on Every Day Poets’ Facebook page (I’m one of their editors). I think our readers would love to see this particular blog post.

    Reply
    • Joe Bunting

      Oh awesome! Thanks Kathleen 🙂

  2. Dmullet

    A moment ago I was watching cedar waxwings built a nest. There is something wonderful to observe each and every moment if you are aware. A friend of mine creates a haiku every day from what she observes.

    Reply
    • akaellisfisher

      Gray waxwing nesting hopefully
      Wonderful, Aware
      A dear friend writes a haiku

    • Steph

      The cedar waxwings wove their nest,
      a lattice of strong sticks
      cupping a downy crib.
      When it was done,
      he built a tiny cedar chest
      and she filled it with poems that were dreams for eggs unborn.
      He hoisted the chest
      onto the edge of the nest
      and she wondered
      when the wind blew
      which way it would fall.

  3. Andrea Cumbo

    Definitely going to try this one, Joe. And thanks for introducing me to a new poet.

    Reply
    • Joe Bunting

      Do it!

      You bet, Andrea. Thanks for stopping by 🙂

  4. Laraj

    Absolutely lovely. I think I need to spend more time wit h images.

    Reply
  5. Cierra Justine Lynch

    Wow! She seems like an awesome person. Definitely someone worth ‘looking up to’. Thank you for sharing!

    Reply
  6. soulstops

    Excellent interview, Laura, and thanks,Joe, for another great interview…my takeaway: need to write down those images floating around in my head…

    Reply
    • Joe Bunting

      Thanks! I know. Those images are key. I’ve been putting them into either my journal (along with a drawing if I have time) or, more often, into Scrivener. They’re super easy to keep track of there.

  7. Gabbygee1976

    Practice:

    In the sunset sky, pink clouds, looking like tufts of cotton candy, drifted lazily. The rest of the world seemed light-years away. My senses were filled with all the sights, sounds, and smells of my childhood.

    Reply
    • akaellisfisher

      The pink years of childhood
      light years away
      smelling of cotton candy and sunsets, seem now like lazy sky
      Now, all the world sounds
      in my senses, loudly calling
      Gabbygee
      Gabbygee
      The rest of the world calls

    • Steph

      How is it that sunsets transport us to childhood? Life is wire bent into a circle, one end sparking as it touches the other.

    • JB Lacaden

      I reach out my
      Hands
      And I grab a
      Handful
      Of cotton candy
      Clouds
      I shove them
      In my mouth
      Melting
      Sweet
      I taste the heavens
      Melting
      Sweet

  8. akaellisfisher

    My “practice” was serendipitously done earlier today when I received an email from a friend addressed to her ‘fellow word nerds’ with the subject line of “Runcible to Rumpus”. It was a link to an article on made up words, like those that Dr. Suess used. I was so inspired by the fun words and ideas, that I wrote a limerick…not, I suppose, the most literary type of verse, but it was fun!

    Word Nerds
    There once was an assemblage of nerds
    Whose garden was a rumpus of words
    They planted the vowels
    Scattered consonants all while
    Digging up meanings for their runcible surds

    Reply
    • Steph

      WhenItriedtoplantawordgardenitturnedintoonelongrowthatstretchednorthwardandneedstobeprunedsoastobetterabsorbtheenergyfromtheauroraborealisbecausethereisnotmuchsunlight.

    • Joe Bunting

      LOVE this Steph.

    • Steph

      Thanks, Joe. This was a fun practice!

  9. Steph

    A mated pair of mallards launch themselves into a sunset of dried lavender buds ground into an orange-sherbet swirl.
    A dandelion, gone to seed, spliced into a perfect hemisphere. Does this mean half a wish was made? And do we recognize when only half a wish is granted?
    The air at the edge of night when it washes warm across my face but tastes cold at the back of my mouth.

    Reply
    • akaellisfisher

      The Answer

      There once was a pair of Mallards
      Who took a dandelion shower
      When their wish was made
      The lavender said
      Half a seed, half a wish, half the power

    • Llbarkat

      Steph, I love this and would like to publish it in Every Day poems, maybe with a few modifications to turn it into a 3-part poem. Can you contact me at llbarkat [at] yahoo [dot] com? Thanks 🙂

  10. Steph

    @akaellisfisher – that is awesome! Thanks for the smile. I see I am having trouble with the “reply” button again…now in Chrome )-:

    Reply
  11. JB Lacaden

    Busted traffic light flashing on and off.
    Empty road.
    Group of people laughing as they walk by.

    Reply
  12. Just B

    Line 1: I hear it first, a slight humming, a few seconds before the flicker of quick, quick movement catches my eye.
    Line 2: A hummingbird darts in and out among the bright fuchsia petunias that hang off the patio fence, its wing’s beating so fast they seem transparent.
    Line 3: Ignoring me, it flits frenetically from flower to flower, dipping deep into each center, its tiny body almost disappearing as it sips the nectar and gathers the pollen.

    My little poem . . .

    Hummingbird hums, beating its wings,
    In search of the pollen it collects
    From flowers dancing in the gentle breeze,
    En masse, so close together they appear to be
    Silent partners enjoying the movement.
    Hummingbird, hum, so more flowers
    Can grow.

    Reply
    • JB Lacaden

      Everything’s a blur
      Colors splashed
      On one another
      Like buckets of paint
      Splashed on a wall
      Sounds mixing
      Scents pulling
      Me towards them
      Beatings wings
      I fly
      Sweet nectar
      Drips
      Down my beak

    • Joe Bunting

      I like this, JB, especially the ending. Great job!

    • JB Lacaden

      Thanks Joe 🙂

  13. Wanda Kiernan

    Below, small indigo quills
    Rest on the red mulch
    Above, The pawed bird’s nest,Still in the shrub,Looks like a teardrop.That’s natureBrutal, cruel, and unforgiving.

    Reply

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